Great Work, Beautiful Thinking, Meaningful Life: Charlotte Lockhart & Michael Bungay Stanier

Hosted by Steven Morris

Video replay of our Author 3-Way conversation to explore the future of work, and what great and meaningful work can become.

With Charlotte Lockhart, Michael Bungay Stanier, and Steven Morris.

I was thrilled to spend time talking with two unique and innovative people, Charlotte Lockhart and Michael Bungay Stanier, to explore how each are changing the landscape of how we work.

We’ll be having a spirited and free-flowing conversation that touched on:

  • Rethinking the work week into a productivity-centric 4-day-work-week.
  • Exploring the framework of Michael’s new book How to Begin, which focuses on how to create something that really matters — to you and to the world.
  • How to find and achieve work that is thrilling, important, and daunting.
  • How trust is not just the emotional currency that all businesses deal in, but it’s also the linchpin to designing a culture that is productive, creative, and can achieve a 4-day-work-week.
  • Ways to design the way we run our businesses in a Post-Pandemic world.
  • How power and control can be rethought for how the leadership sees culture.

About the speakers

Charlotte Lockhart

Founder and Managing Director at 4 Day Week Global

Charlotte Lockhart is a business advocate, investor and philanthropist with more than 25 years’ experience in multiple industries locally and overseas.

As founder and managing director for the 4 Day Week Global campaign she works promoting internationally the benefits of a productivity-focused and reduced-hour workplace. Through this, she is on the board of the Wellbeing Research Centre at Oxford University and the advisory boards of the US campaign and the Ireland campaign for the 4 day week. Since a diagnosis with Stage 4 breast cancer, Charlotte has become very focused on changing the way we work today to a better, more inclusive experience for everyone.

In their spare time Charlotte and Andrew enjoy working in their vineyard business on Waiheke and spending time with family.

Michael Bungay Stanier

Author & Speaker at MBS Works

Michael Bungay Stanier is the author of seven books which between them have sold over a million copies. He’s best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of the century and already recognized as a classic.

His new book, How to Begin, helps people be more ambitious for themselves and for the world. Michael was a Rhodes Scholar and plays the ukulele badly.

He’s Australian, and lives in Toronto, Canada. Learn more at

Steven Morris

Steven Morris is an expert brand and culture builder, advisor, author, and speaker. He has worked with 300+ brands including Samsung, Sony, Habitat for Humanity, Amazon, International Trademark Association, NFL, and MLB. Over his 27 years as an entrepreneur, he’s served more than 3,000 global business leaders.

His new book is entitled The Beautiful Business: An Actionable Manifesto to Create an Unignorable Business with Love at the Core has been dubbed as “The artist’s way for business leaders.”

He reaches 25,000+ readers through his blog and writes about branding, culture, leadership, and the intersection between work and life as a contributing writer for Retail Observer, Wisdom Well, Business Week, Brand Week, Conscious Company Magazine, Communication Arts, HOW Magazine and MarketingProfs.

When he is not supporting leaders in building beautiful brands and businesses, Steven explores his wholehearted participation with life as a husband, father, artist, surfer, motorcyclist, and beekeeper.

As employers, we have to remember that we borrow our people from their lives. Someone has a life, and they bring it to your workplace.”

— Charlotte lockhart

“The very nature of doing more Great Work means there will be times when you stumble, times you lose the path, times when you’re hacking through the jungle. You’ll ask yourself if this was the right path in the first place. As various military leaders have pointed out over the years, ‘No plan survives contact with the enemy.’”

― Michael Bungay Stenier